https://www.kincony.com/forum/ Thu, 04 Jun 2026 04:15:35 +0000 MyBB https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9288 Fri, 24 Apr 2026 14:23:14 +0800 twostar]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9288 https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9149 Sat, 21 Mar 2026 16:44:52 +0800 Mihai845]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9149
I would like to suggest adding different views option to the KinCony Cloud devices. 
It will improve a lot the user experience if we would be able to expand the Device as a list to see the Status of selected inputs/outputs or to be able to view as split screens different devices in a similar way would monitor security cameras for example. 
With present view option it's needed to enter each device separately to view or control the outputs, not being able to see what happens with other devices.

In my case I am using 7 x A16v3, split in 3 Electrical Panels, to control the lights and windows stores in one building and would be much better to be able to see all the selected inputs/outputs combined in one page and also to be able to group or sort them in different views.

Thank you]]>
I would like to suggest adding different views option to the KinCony Cloud devices. 
It will improve a lot the user experience if we would be able to expand the Device as a list to see the Status of selected inputs/outputs or to be able to view as split screens different devices in a similar way would monitor security cameras for example. 
With present view option it's needed to enter each device separately to view or control the outputs, not being able to see what happens with other devices.

In my case I am using 7 x A16v3, split in 3 Electrical Panels, to control the lights and windows stores in one building and would be much better to be able to see all the selected inputs/outputs combined in one page and also to be able to group or sort them in different views.

Thank you]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9147 Fri, 20 Mar 2026 16:34:32 +0800 ldebacker]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9147
This forces cutting the plastic of the enclosures, which is not nice.

It would be good to have a cover compatible with those standardized enclosures:
- Width equal to a number of standard module (18mm I think)
- Height of the prominent part = 45 mm.

BRs,

Laurent]]>
This forces cutting the plastic of the enclosures, which is not nice.

It would be good to have a cover compatible with those standardized enclosures:
- Width equal to a number of standard module (18mm I think)
- Height of the prominent part = 45 mm.

BRs,

Laurent]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9146 Fri, 20 Mar 2026 16:22:39 +0800 ldebacker]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9146 The cover of the E16V3 seems to be coated metal.

Rigid or semi-rigid wires are screwed on the terminal block , with the risk that the tip of the wire will touch the cover.

Although the coated layer isolates the cover from the wire, this layer is very thin and the wire could scratch the coating so that the cover could quickly be submitted to high voltage.

There should be additional isolation between the terminal block and the cover, such as a plastic strip glued to the cover.

BRs,

Laurent]]> The cover of the E16V3 seems to be coated metal.

Rigid or semi-rigid wires are screwed on the terminal block , with the risk that the tip of the wire will touch the cover.

Although the coated layer isolates the cover from the wire, this layer is very thin and the wire could scratch the coating so that the cover could quickly be submitted to high voltage.

There should be additional isolation between the terminal block and the cover, such as a plastic strip glued to the cover.

BRs,

Laurent]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9145 Fri, 20 Mar 2026 15:46:44 +0800 spacerunner]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9145
Being a long time user of Koncony products now, I wonder why not move the Kincony products codebase to GitHub?

I know this is asked a lot for existing projects / companies. But it would be a great, much more efficient experience for most, if not even all Kincony users / customers.

Most users today use GitHub, engineers do anyway. As well as the directly connected technologies, for example ESPHome and Tasmota.

I am confident that this would open a much wider audience on Kinconys products, make issues and pull requests possible and much, much more.

Do you see a chance of this happening?

Bet wishes,
Stefan]]>
Being a long time user of Koncony products now, I wonder why not move the Kincony products codebase to GitHub?

I know this is asked a lot for existing projects / companies. But it would be a great, much more efficient experience for most, if not even all Kincony users / customers.

Most users today use GitHub, engineers do anyway. As well as the directly connected technologies, for example ESPHome and Tasmota.

I am confident that this would open a much wider audience on Kinconys products, make issues and pull requests possible and much, much more.

Do you see a chance of this happening?

Bet wishes,
Stefan]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9081 Sun, 01 Mar 2026 17:26:28 +0800 Jan_W]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9081 not with 0-10V outputs (like DM16), but MOSFET with PWM Analog Outputs?

0-10V is great, but it makes everything more complicated when I just want to dimm multiple individual LEDs from single DC source - additional multiple dimmable drivers etc.

We have nice product from Polish manufacturer - boneIO ESP DImmer LED gen 2 with 8x PWM outputs. It costs 110$ and is great, I just wanted to have all from Kincony and cannot find anything like this

https://store.boneio.eu/product/boneio-d...8404204e3d

Please consider making product like this. I think it will be very popular on the Polish market (this boneIO is almost always sold out).

Thanks!]]> not with 0-10V outputs (like DM16), but MOSFET with PWM Analog Outputs?

0-10V is great, but it makes everything more complicated when I just want to dimm multiple individual LEDs from single DC source - additional multiple dimmable drivers etc.

We have nice product from Polish manufacturer - boneIO ESP DImmer LED gen 2 with 8x PWM outputs. It costs 110$ and is great, I just wanted to have all from Kincony and cannot find anything like this

https://store.boneio.eu/product/boneio-d...8404204e3d

Please consider making product like this. I think it will be very popular on the Polish market (this boneIO is almost always sold out).

Thanks!]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9071 Sun, 22 Feb 2026 19:59:02 +0800 ldebacker]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9071
There are 2 issues with the documentation of the 4 dip switches to set the slave ID on the bus.
Let's call, from left to right, the 4 dip switches respecively A0 A1 A2 A3.

1/ 
The documentation mentions that when A3 is in OFF state, this means the outputs are controlled by the input terminals (and when in ON state, it is controlled by MODBUS).
It is actually the reverse: When A3 is in OFF state, the device is controlled by MODBUS.

2/
The documentation specifies that when identifying the slave id, the value of the slave id is:  (A0 * 1  + A1 * 2 + A2 * 4) + 10.
so: A0=ON A1=OFF A2= OFF should give  slave ID  (1 * 1 + 0 * 2 + 0 * 4 ) + 10 = 11 (according to the table in the documentation)

It is actually the reverse: from trials/errors, the formula to apply seems to be (A0 * 4 + A1 * 2 + A2 * 1) + 10
so: A0=ON A1=OFF A2= OFF is, in reality slave ID  (1 * 4 + 0 * 2 + 0 * 1 ) + 10 = 14 (from experience).]]>
There are 2 issues with the documentation of the 4 dip switches to set the slave ID on the bus.
Let's call, from left to right, the 4 dip switches respecively A0 A1 A2 A3.

1/ 
The documentation mentions that when A3 is in OFF state, this means the outputs are controlled by the input terminals (and when in ON state, it is controlled by MODBUS).
It is actually the reverse: When A3 is in OFF state, the device is controlled by MODBUS.

2/
The documentation specifies that when identifying the slave id, the value of the slave id is:  (A0 * 1  + A1 * 2 + A2 * 4) + 10.
so: A0=ON A1=OFF A2= OFF should give  slave ID  (1 * 1 + 0 * 2 + 0 * 4 ) + 10 = 11 (according to the table in the documentation)

It is actually the reverse: from trials/errors, the formula to apply seems to be (A0 * 4 + A1 * 2 + A2 * 1) + 10
so: A0=ON A1=OFF A2= OFF is, in reality slave ID  (1 * 4 + 0 * 2 + 0 * 1 ) + 10 = 14 (from experience).]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9070 Sun, 22 Feb 2026 19:48:10 +0800 ldebacker]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9070
I have 2 E16V3 installed as 2 different slaves on the same modbus.

When I send a command to each in isolation, I  receive a response within a few milli-seconds from the E16V3.

But when I send a command to the second E16V3 immediately after successful response from the first one, then I never receive the response from the second device.

It seems that the second E16V3 is puzzled by the activity on the bus that is not intended to himself.

I have to retry the command to the second E16V3, or wait (20 miliseconds for example) before sending the command to the second E16V3

I can help troubleshooting further if needed.

BRs,

Laurent]]>
I have 2 E16V3 installed as 2 different slaves on the same modbus.

When I send a command to each in isolation, I  receive a response within a few milli-seconds from the E16V3.

But when I send a command to the second E16V3 immediately after successful response from the first one, then I never receive the response from the second device.

It seems that the second E16V3 is puzzled by the activity on the bus that is not intended to himself.

I have to retry the command to the second E16V3, or wait (20 miliseconds for example) before sending the command to the second E16V3

I can help troubleshooting further if needed.

BRs,

Laurent]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9031 Mon, 09 Feb 2026 01:10:57 +0800 ldebacker]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9031
On the E16V3, is there a way to reduce the intensity of the LEDs (throuh a modbus register setting, for example) ?

Thanks in advance,

BRs,

Laurent]]>
On the E16V3, is there a way to reduce the intensity of the LEDs (throuh a modbus register setting, for example) ?

Thanks in advance,

BRs,

Laurent]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9030 Sun, 08 Feb 2026 18:58:17 +0800 ldebacker]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9030
The E16V3 works great so far.

I would just like to suggest an enhancement for future versions...

The relays, when changing state, generate some noise, which is normal.
However, the added cover is metallic, and it resonates quite a lot when the relays are changing state.

May be some internal isolation could be added to reduce the noise levels ?

Thanks in advance for considering the suggestion.

Best regards,

Laurent]]>
The E16V3 works great so far.

I would just like to suggest an enhancement for future versions...

The relays, when changing state, generate some noise, which is normal.
However, the added cover is metallic, and it resonates quite a lot when the relays are changing state.

May be some internal isolation could be added to reduce the noise levels ?

Thanks in advance for considering the suggestion.

Best regards,

Laurent]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=8980 Tue, 03 Feb 2026 00:40:18 +0800 ldebacker]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=8980
Is there a way to change the default RS485 baudrate (which is 38400 bps) ?

Any existing register to change the RS485 parameters ?

Thanks in advance !]]>
Is there a way to change the default RS485 baudrate (which is 38400 bps) ?

Any existing register to change the RS485 parameters ?

Thanks in advance !]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=8979 Tue, 03 Feb 2026 00:35:12 +0800 ldebacker]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=8979 I have seen the CE certificate for the Kincony products here: https://www.kincony.com/images/patent/CCJS.2411163.pdf
This certificate mentions The Kincony V2, but not the V3.
Where can I find the certificate for the V3?
Thanks in advance !]]> I have seen the CE certificate for the Kincony products here: https://www.kincony.com/images/patent/CCJS.2411163.pdf
This certificate mentions The Kincony V2, but not the V3.
Where can I find the certificate for the V3?
Thanks in advance !]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=8905 Tue, 13 Jan 2026 04:02:33 +0800 mkai]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=8905
First: I find the Kinkony products very compelling and find it amazing what product lines you built always following the open approach of open hardware with schematics and software support for ESPHome!

I want to use several actors in my future house to control 230V and Roller/Shutters with ESPHome, but there are some drawbacks preventing me. I'd like to share my thoughts - maybe for your future products

- The actors should be installed in a "standard german electrical cabinet" following the standard "DIN 43880:1988-12".
- This standard defines division units (DU) of 17.5mm for DIN-rail devices. The standard cabinet provides a width of 12 DU (12x 17.5 = 210mm) per slot.
- All common smart home devices in Germany follow these standards, e.g., HomeMaticIP Wired, Loxone and KNX. These units are available in 2, 4, 6 or 12 division units to maximize the space utilization in cabinets and provide around 1 relay per DU.
- For my Smart Home, I need a bunch of 230V actors supporting 10A (roller shutter) and 16A relays (switchable sockets / lights) and don't have much space left in the existing cabinets, so integration density is crucial.


- Your product line:
-- I find the F16 very compelling, but it exceeds the maximum width of my cabinet slots (262mm F16 vs. 210mm (12DU) cabinet). Costs are ~15 USD/relay.
-- The F8 on the other hand would fit with its 195mm, but only provides a overall poor integration density of 8 relays / 12 DU and has a higher cost per relay (~20 USD/relay).
-- KC868-A8v3 comes with 8x 10A relays, width: 148mm(9 DU), integration density: 8 relays/9DU;  costs: 8USD/relay
   Q: Can't find the schematics for the v3 version. Is there a single PCB variant supporting V12 and V24 power supply (as opposed to the v1 versions where the relays are either 12V or 24V)


--> My conclusion: At the current state none of the products really match by requirements, so I want to share some thoughts:


Summing up my requirements for the ideal cabinet 230V actor:
- 24V power supply
- Device width following 6 or 12 DU DIN Rail widths
- LAN connection (POE would be nice, but 24V power is also available in the cabinet)
- 230V outputs: 10 / 16 A relays  (edit: was 23V, intended: 230V)
- Inputs: Every relay should have one corresponding opto-coupled dry contact input (24-capable)
- Stand-only functionality: Should work without active connection to the home controller / home assistant.
- High integration density: 1 Relay per 1 DU (17.5mm) as provided by competitors (Loxone, Homematic, KNX)
- NO need for additional interfaces (CAN, Tuya, SDCard, analogue in, etc.).
- costs should not exceed 15USD/ relay
- Housing with proper cover is a must. LEDs should indicate active relays. A display does not matter. An additional RGB-LED showing a general device health-status (power okay, ESPHome connected/disconnected) should be enough. 


Additional (unstructured) feedback:
- I like the idea of having input overrides as the switches in the F-series. But for using them as a roller-shutter actor this can lead to severe problems (powering both up -and down of the roller-shutter at once). While accessing the device by software there will be an mutual lock of Up/Down ESPHome (already provided in their sources).
Could you consider replacing the "permanent switches" with buttons and program a software-behaviour like "hold them for momentary-override" or "double click for permanent on/off"?
- The connectors used in your products are rather large. Could you consider using connectors with a smaller footprints? The reduced size could be used for additional relays on this side of the board (especially good for 12 DU units (6 DU for inputs/power and 6 DU for 4 additional relays).
- Did you know that the company Waveshare (e.g., Modbus POE Eth Relay ©) has a nice concept of DIN-rail devices with 2xEthernet/RJ45 POE-in and POE-out? This allows for device chaining, which is super cool for tight cabinet spaces
- Product selector:
-- Please make separate a selection for 12V and 24V.
-- Filter by size / length

My background: Electrical Engineer (PCB design / FPGA). Designed several Atmega 328-based devices for my cabinet and want to upgrade for better HomeAssitant integration. I have many more ideas and would be happy to discuss, if you are interested


Best Regards, sorry for the long post and keep up your good work!

Martin]]>
First: I find the Kinkony products very compelling and find it amazing what product lines you built always following the open approach of open hardware with schematics and software support for ESPHome!

I want to use several actors in my future house to control 230V and Roller/Shutters with ESPHome, but there are some drawbacks preventing me. I'd like to share my thoughts - maybe for your future products

- The actors should be installed in a "standard german electrical cabinet" following the standard "DIN 43880:1988-12".
- This standard defines division units (DU) of 17.5mm for DIN-rail devices. The standard cabinet provides a width of 12 DU (12x 17.5 = 210mm) per slot.
- All common smart home devices in Germany follow these standards, e.g., HomeMaticIP Wired, Loxone and KNX. These units are available in 2, 4, 6 or 12 division units to maximize the space utilization in cabinets and provide around 1 relay per DU.
- For my Smart Home, I need a bunch of 230V actors supporting 10A (roller shutter) and 16A relays (switchable sockets / lights) and don't have much space left in the existing cabinets, so integration density is crucial.


- Your product line:
-- I find the F16 very compelling, but it exceeds the maximum width of my cabinet slots (262mm F16 vs. 210mm (12DU) cabinet). Costs are ~15 USD/relay.
-- The F8 on the other hand would fit with its 195mm, but only provides a overall poor integration density of 8 relays / 12 DU and has a higher cost per relay (~20 USD/relay).
-- KC868-A8v3 comes with 8x 10A relays, width: 148mm(9 DU), integration density: 8 relays/9DU;  costs: 8USD/relay
   Q: Can't find the schematics for the v3 version. Is there a single PCB variant supporting V12 and V24 power supply (as opposed to the v1 versions where the relays are either 12V or 24V)


--> My conclusion: At the current state none of the products really match by requirements, so I want to share some thoughts:


Summing up my requirements for the ideal cabinet 230V actor:
- 24V power supply
- Device width following 6 or 12 DU DIN Rail widths
- LAN connection (POE would be nice, but 24V power is also available in the cabinet)
- 230V outputs: 10 / 16 A relays  (edit: was 23V, intended: 230V)
- Inputs: Every relay should have one corresponding opto-coupled dry contact input (24-capable)
- Stand-only functionality: Should work without active connection to the home controller / home assistant.
- High integration density: 1 Relay per 1 DU (17.5mm) as provided by competitors (Loxone, Homematic, KNX)
- NO need for additional interfaces (CAN, Tuya, SDCard, analogue in, etc.).
- costs should not exceed 15USD/ relay
- Housing with proper cover is a must. LEDs should indicate active relays. A display does not matter. An additional RGB-LED showing a general device health-status (power okay, ESPHome connected/disconnected) should be enough. 


Additional (unstructured) feedback:
- I like the idea of having input overrides as the switches in the F-series. But for using them as a roller-shutter actor this can lead to severe problems (powering both up -and down of the roller-shutter at once). While accessing the device by software there will be an mutual lock of Up/Down ESPHome (already provided in their sources).
Could you consider replacing the "permanent switches" with buttons and program a software-behaviour like "hold them for momentary-override" or "double click for permanent on/off"?
- The connectors used in your products are rather large. Could you consider using connectors with a smaller footprints? The reduced size could be used for additional relays on this side of the board (especially good for 12 DU units (6 DU for inputs/power and 6 DU for 4 additional relays).
- Did you know that the company Waveshare (e.g., Modbus POE Eth Relay ©) has a nice concept of DIN-rail devices with 2xEthernet/RJ45 POE-in and POE-out? This allows for device chaining, which is super cool for tight cabinet spaces
- Product selector:
-- Please make separate a selection for 12V and 24V.
-- Filter by size / length

My background: Electrical Engineer (PCB design / FPGA). Designed several Atmega 328-based devices for my cabinet and want to upgrade for better HomeAssitant integration. I have many more ideas and would be happy to discuss, if you are interested


Best Regards, sorry for the long post and keep up your good work!

Martin]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=8832 Sun, 21 Dec 2025 08:48:21 +0800 phrfpeixoto]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=8832
I'm building a new apartment and need some help picking up a product from Kincony's lineup:

There are too many similar boards, with subtle differences, so it's a little confusing which to select.
Here's what I'm planning for:

- Automated lights everywhere. I think I can consider 3 light circuits in each room
- IR integration for HVAC split systems (heat pumps)
- Automated curtains (roll-on or some railing system)
- Power measurement over each power phase (no need for individual circuit measurement)
- RF 433 MHz support for future use

About the space itself:
It's a 190 sqm high-rise apartment, with 4 bedrooms (suite) + large living room (with balcony), kitchen, and mudroom
Also:

- I live in Brazil, and power here is usually a 3-phase 220v system.
- Lighting nowadays is LED-based, but all bulbs and fixtures are always AC 220V. I've never shopped for DC lighting (12 or 24V).
- Power outlets are rated for 10A @ 220V. High-power outlets (mud room, kitchen appliances) are 20A @ 220V

Other things I'd like:
- I want to use regular dry-contact wall switches: Specialty or wireless switches are a big no for me.
- I would like to use CAT5 UTP cabling for switches, if possible.
- I would like to use POE for powering as many devices as possible
- I have no interest in TUYA, and I'll use a Home Assistant setup, so the board needs to support ESP Home

Please help, I don't know what  boards to choose.]]>
I'm building a new apartment and need some help picking up a product from Kincony's lineup:

There are too many similar boards, with subtle differences, so it's a little confusing which to select.
Here's what I'm planning for:

- Automated lights everywhere. I think I can consider 3 light circuits in each room
- IR integration for HVAC split systems (heat pumps)
- Automated curtains (roll-on or some railing system)
- Power measurement over each power phase (no need for individual circuit measurement)
- RF 433 MHz support for future use

About the space itself:
It's a 190 sqm high-rise apartment, with 4 bedrooms (suite) + large living room (with balcony), kitchen, and mudroom
Also:

- I live in Brazil, and power here is usually a 3-phase 220v system.
- Lighting nowadays is LED-based, but all bulbs and fixtures are always AC 220V. I've never shopped for DC lighting (12 or 24V).
- Power outlets are rated for 10A @ 220V. High-power outlets (mud room, kitchen appliances) are 20A @ 220V

Other things I'd like:
- I want to use regular dry-contact wall switches: Specialty or wireless switches are a big no for me.
- I would like to use CAT5 UTP cabling for switches, if possible.
- I would like to use POE for powering as many devices as possible
- I have no interest in TUYA, and I'll use a Home Assistant setup, so the board needs to support ESP Home

Please help, I don't know what  boards to choose.]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=8456 Wed, 20 Aug 2025 06:09:54 +0800 lulu01]]> https://www.kincony.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=8456
is there any chance that you add PoE to more boards in the future, for instance the F24?

Thanks]]>
is there any chance that you add PoE to more boards in the future, for instance the F24?

Thanks]]>