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  What is the expected relay behaviour?
Posted by: Sheep - 01-08-2025, 06:50 PM - Forum: F16 - Replies (1)

Hello,

I have an F16 as a test unit because I would like to install two F32s as smart home controllers, mainly for lights, in a house build working with home assistant (HA).  I hope they offer a good option by being able to sense low power wired wall switched and feed in to HA and output power to smart LED lighting in each room, with the ability to physically toggle the lights should some catastrophic HA / F16 controller / network event occur.  This also offers safety if work needs to be carried out.

I'm trying to understand what the behaviour is supposed to be for the output relays when controlled in software and the physical switch.  I've found the same happens with ESPhome and the KCS v3 software.  It is not connected to the internet (ie the Tuya module is offline).

I would expect that the circuit allows for feedback between software and physical switch control, meaning that turning on the physical switch will register as being 'on' on the software side.  Similarly, I would expect that the software switch could toggle the state of the physical switch in either state, and change the red 'on,' light.

I find that there appears to be no feedback between the physical switching of the relay and the software.
The software switching alone works flawlessly and the physical toggle alone works flawlessly.
The problem is that if the software has turned the output on, the physical switch will not turn it off.  If the physical switch has turned the output on this is not fed back in software and, although the software button can still be toggled, this has no effect on the relay and it remains on despite being toggled in software.  This persists even if the F16 then loses internet connection.  I've not found any hint in the YAML files that there is any form of sensor for the physical toggle switches, nor can I find a schematic to figure it out.

So, am I being rather daft and missing an obvious setting somewhere or is this an intended behaviour (which would be a shame and can it be changed?)?

Any help much appreciated and hope it's just me doing something wrong, as this seems like a really high quality product.

Yours,

S,

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  KC868-H32 Relay Controller REV:2.4 Problem after firmware update
Posted by: bvelinov - 01-08-2025, 07:26 AM - Forum: KC868-HxB series Smart Controller - Replies (5)

Hello, today I ordered from your controller for control through the Tuya application, and in this regard I decided to change the firmware version with a new one downloaded from your site following all the steps as described. After the procedure is completed, my kc868-h32 is no longer the same. outputs 2 and 3 flash and the response time of the buttons is unstable. Please give me feedback and if there is the original version of my device, could you provide it to me?


I installed the firmware H32B_V508_230921

   

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  KC868-H32 Relay Controller REV:2.4 Problem after firmware update
Posted by: bvelinov - 01-08-2025, 05:21 AM - Forum: News - Replies (3)

Hello, today I ordered from your controller for control through the Tuya application, and in this regard I decided to change the firmware version with a new one downloaded from your site following all the steps as described. After the procedure is completed, my kc868-h32 is no longer the same. outputs 2 and 3 flash and the response time of the buttons is unstable. Please give me feedback and if there is the original version of my device, could you provide it to me?

I installed the firmware H32B_V508_230921



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  KC868-a6 Relay switches
Posted by: icemannz - 01-08-2025, 04:21 AM - Forum: DIY Project - Replies (3)

Hi, I have a KC868-a6 board and it is up and running with ESPHome.
I can control all the relays via Home Assistant without issue.

What I would like to do is also have manual switches mounted on the box so I can switch a relay on or off.
I thought that grounding the DI-1 through 6 pins were for this but they don't appear to work that way.

Is there a way to connect up 6 small switches to the board to allow for manual switching if the relays ?

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  a32 pro conrolled by homeassistant
Posted by: Saif Kitany - 01-07-2025, 08:04 PM - Forum: News - Replies (29)

is there any video explains how to make all the proccess from A-Z HOW to conrol a32 pro by home assistant?

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  Programmed in ESPHOME
Posted by: Fernando_FSF - 01-07-2025, 03:33 PM - Forum: DIY Project - Replies (1)

Hello. I have a Kincony F16 that has been programmed in ESPHOME so that the digital inputs act on de "relay" outputs as a wall switch, the question is. Is there a way to keep working like this but add a condition that if a Home Assasistant entity is active, It blocks the relay from turning on in any wall and cannot be turned off? In ESPHOME of course. If possible, can you give an example? Thanks.

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  Not showing up as Assist satellite target in automations
Posted by: ApexNick - 01-07-2025, 03:30 PM - Forum: KinCony AS - Replies (4)

I am trying to create an automation that makes an announcement at a certain time, but it does not shoe up as a target. How do I fix this? HAOS 2024.12.5 .

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  KC868-A16 Ethernet DS18B20 issues
Posted by: nielsek - 01-07-2025, 10:52 AM - Forum: KC868-A series and Uair Smart Controller - Replies (11)

Greetings to everybody.
I have quite extensively tested KC868-16 and KC868-6 with tens of DS18B20 temperature sensors.  I'm using ESPHOME.  With KC868-16 I found that if enabling Ethernet (instead of Wifi), after few hours I loose connection with temperature sensors:

Code:
12:26:37][W][dallas.temp.sensor:139]: 'Temperature sensor 115 (1m)' - Scratch pad checksum invalid!
[12:26:37][W][component:157]: Component dallas_temp.sensor set Warning flag: scratch pad checksum invalid
[12:26:37][D][sensor:093]: 'Temperature sensor 115 (1m)': Sending state nan °C with 2 decimals of accuracy
It first starts with few of these messages in logs, but soon (in few hours or even less) it happens to all of them.  Also tested with 5v (from 433mhz port), but still the same.
With wifi there isn't that problem.

While testing I had 6 sensors connected to HT2.  It doesn't matter, if there's less or more sensors, or shared between all three HT ports (HT1-HT3).  The outcome is the same.
Have different good quality power supplies that I have tested. During the testing there were no other devices connected.  Below I use 1 second interval, if using longer time, the issue is still there.
I really need ethernet.  Much appreciated, if you could point me in a direction, what to test next.
outtake from yaml (with one sensor):
Code:
#Workaround for sensors update
interval:
  - interval: 6s
    then:
      - component.update: temp_111 #IO_2
      - delay: 1s
      - component.update: temp_112 #IO_2
      - delay: 1s
      - component.update: temp_113 #IO_2
      - delay: 1s
      - component.update: temp_114 #IO_2
      - delay: 1s
      - component.update: temp_115 #IO_2
      - delay: 1s
      - component.update: temp_117 #IO_2
one_wire:
  - platform: gpio
    pin: GPIO32
    id: IO_1 #HT1
  - platform: gpio
    pin: GPIO33 #HT2
    id: IO_2
  - platform: gpio
    pin: GPIO14 #HT2
    id: IO_3
sensor: 
  - platform: dallas_temp
    address: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    name: Temperature sensor 109 (1m)
    id: temp_109
    one_wire_id: IO_3
    unit_of_measurement: "°C"
    icon: "mdi:thermometer-plus"
    device_class: "temperature"
    state_class: "measurement"
    accuracy_decimals: 2
    update_interval: never
    filters:
#      - filter_out: nan
      - filter_out: 85.0

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  board setup
Posted by: gyengeb - 01-06-2025, 09:34 PM - Forum: KC868-A6 - Replies (5)

Hi,

Could you please tell me which board shall I choose in arduino ide?

And coul you please paste a test code to test the flash and the relay-s?

Thank you.

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  Using 12v on Digital Input
Posted by: DW1 - 01-05-2025, 12:08 AM - Forum: KC868-A16 - Replies (11)

I am using a KC898-A16 in ESPHome.  I have it successfuly set it up in ESPHome/HomeAssistant.  I can switch the outputs on and off and if I connect any digital input to ground (dry contact) I see it as input in ESPHome.

My issue is that if I apply 12vdc negative to the digital ground and 12vdc positive to any digital input I get no input.

I have tried setting invert = false

It is my understanding that it is possible to apply 12vdc to a digital input and get a result.

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